Scam Spam
2004-12-07 00:22:15 ET

An email I've written to a friend:

I've just received another one of those scam emails that claim to be from a bank. This time it claims to be from Washington Mutual. I did a little research. It seems that it's some Chinese nationalist hackers who have nothing better to do. The text on their website says the following:


1937.12.13 300,000 !

1945.8.6 Little boy
1945.8.9 Fatso

Let history tell future !

It looks like they're pretty pissed off about Japan. I've looked up all the dates. This is what they reference to:

September 18, 1931 - (from Wikipedia.Com) The Mukden Incident (September 18, 1931), also called Manchurian Incident, occurred in northern Manchuria when the Japanese blew up a section of their own railroad near Mukden (today's Shenyang). Japan's military accused Chinese dissidents, thus providing an excuse for the Japanese annexation of Manchuria.

July 7, 1937 - Start of the second Sino-Japanese War with the Battle of Lugou Bridge (a.k.a. Marco Polo Bridge incident). Most historians place this to be the start of the second Sino-Japanese War. However, Chinese historians place the starting point earlier at September 18, 1931 (i.e. the above date).

December 13, 1937 - The end of the Battle of Nanjing which resulted in Nanjing falling into Japanese hands. What follows is the Nanjing Massacre (a.k.a. the Rape of Nanking). Various Western and Eastern sources put the death toll at around 300,000. Hence the 300,000 figure on their page.

The next trio:

December 7, 1941 - Pearl Harbor.

August 6, 1945 - Atomic bomb codenamed "Little Boy" dropped on Hiroshima.

August 9, 1945 - Atomic bomb codenamed "Fat Man" dropped on Nagasaki.

Final date is:

August 15, 1945 - Japanese surrender (the actual date is August 14th but due to time zone differences it was probably announced in China on August 15th).

I don't know what their problem is but yeah, it definately looks like that they dislike Japan.

They used another IP address previously (an IP address is a 12 digit address that each device with a direct connection to the internet has (example: and I've managed to track it to a Hong Kong ISP.

I've spoken with a sociologist from the Netherlands a few months back. He was doing a comparison study between the hacker community in America and the hacker community in China. He told me that the Chinese community is very low key and a good lot of the Chinese hackers are ultra-nationalist types. Thus, what I've found today comes as no surprise.

- Sergey

2004-12-07 05:44:51 ET

damn, that's interesting.
I am not big on the hacker scene, but as I known the juarez scene china's internet is super restricted.. like, they can get in soo much trouble if caught running a server.

2004-12-07 10:36:04 ET

Heh. I find it amusing that people pronounce it "juarez" when it's simply "warez" as in "softwares".

The internet is restricted but from what I know, software piracy is a huuuuge thing in China. My guess is that they simply sell the pirated software on the street. Much like they do in Russia. In fact, in Russia, you can buy mp3 collections and pirated software in supermarkets. It makes sense of course considering that a good paying job in Russia is considered something like $200/month.

2004-12-07 13:12:53 ET

nahh, I spell it juarez because I think it's funny.. Buy yeah, I pronounce it "warez"

yeah, I have a friend who lives in russia, when she came up last fall she had some mp3 disks that she bought.. hah. fun stuff..

the same is true in iraq and afghanistan -- my brother was overseas there a few summers ago (military) --> he bought soo much pirated crap,, lol

2004-12-07 18:53:59 ET

This is why pirates are better than ninjas.

2004-12-07 18:58:46 ET

damn right :-D

2004-12-07 19:13:07 ET

don't have to go all the way to russia to shop for pirated software...just come to Chinatown in Toronto! Shops after shops of ripped VCDs and DVDs with gold pride labels on it suggesting "pirated directly from original DVD for best quality!". They pirate their own $8 products from China and try to sell it off for 3 for $10! They pirate X-box and PS2 games, microsoft products, EVERYTHING!

And half of the street opens up just to sell these things!
Try opening a Rogers Video in Chinatown and you're guaranteed lost business.

2004-12-07 23:44:45 ET

dude, I've been to that china town --> that's where i bought my fox tail . --> they also sell some sick porn in some of those stores..... >:-(.
but yeah, that china town beats LA's hands down

2004-12-07 23:47:29 ET

hey, I've walked into a comic store before to rent a comic, to be held up in line for 30 minutes because some balding 40 year old chinaman decided to haggle over second hand gangbang porn, thinking they're only worth 5 for $20.

2004-12-07 23:55:02 ET

lol.. that's sad.. Wayy different culture than here where I live.. -- Porn is practically illegal. (Utah, USA)

2004-12-08 07:06:33 ET

"oh I'm sorry." *bows head*
(quoting Orgasmo)

2004-12-08 10:27:54 ET

side topic,, I have yet to see that movie - some of my friends hate it / some like it, would you recomend it?
Utah is a terrible place... ekk

2004-12-08 14:56:12 ET

I liked it.

2004-12-08 17:53:28 ET

I liked it. Well watch it without expecting the high tech glamour. It's just a bunch of cheap jokes.

2004-12-08 18:43:43 ET

alright, I'll keep that in mind.
thanks :-)

2004-12-16 10:23:09 ET

I can understand the hate for Japan. There are a grip of left over poison gas canisters laying around in China. Japan never really paid for its actions with Unit 731 and the data Unit 731 harvested went to the Americans.

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