mishmash whiplash
2003-01-30 08:03:22 ET

rocking some laid back trance. its good background music. TONIK..my friend rachel's project. more emergency work for HYDRA just popped up. i swear, i am gonna start swinging from the hips soon. i may not be able to go to pyramid tonight because of this new development.

i was just reflecting on how people never turn out as exciting as they seem. when it comes down to it, people are generally boring. find salvation not in others. we all look for others to improve us, to change us for the better...but we gotta start from home. everyone is unique...but bound by the limits of humanity: genetic hardwiring, emotional response, self-interest. its maddening, sickening, beautiful and fascinating.


2003-01-30 08:13:18 ET

Amen to that! People are boring!

But I find the more education one has the more interesting they turn out to be. Not always, but it's a good measure for me!

2003-01-30 08:16:03 ET

education helps immensly! but also it can spawn elitism and close-mindedness [oddly enough]

depends on the person

2003-01-30 08:59:52 ET

yeah i've gone both routes, elitism follows trying to find completeness in others, and completeness follows elitism, i'm still working toward completeness but at least i'm not an elitist

2003-01-30 09:44:39 ET

elistism is a sign of insecurity. exclusion is seen as a form of empowerment. its a fairly sad phenomenon

2003-01-30 10:40:17 ET

people NEVER end up being the way you think they will... if you think they are exciting at first, than they will probably end up being boring and dull, im convinced that everyone has too much baggage, including myself :) ...but at least i dont front! lol

2003-01-30 10:43:37 ET

it's because you spend alot of time overidealizing people

2003-01-30 10:49:31 ET

yikes! sounds like ... lol

2003-01-30 11:08:19 ET

DC: yea dude...we chew through people until we hit resistance. with modern peer relations the way they are [internet, etc] we dont take time any more to work on friendships. its the 'if you are not going where i am headed, then you are getting left behind' effect.

sin: i dont know about idealizing...just expecting something different. and there are a lot of people who spend enourmous energy to APPEAR different [just take a look around on sk.net], but underneath the glowsticks, the capes, the mohawks...we are all still the same, driven by the same needs and desires.

2003-01-30 11:15:11 ET

definatly bro, definatly lol

2003-01-30 11:51:59 ET

Yeah, sorry we're not all amazing conversationalists. :P

2003-01-30 11:59:25 ET

hmmm...yes

2003-01-30 12:12:18 ET

i know i'm boring...and i can live with this ;-P

2003-01-30 12:17:40 ET

bio: lol...i wasnt talking about conversation ;p

turbo: yes?

furax: i am comfortable with my boring-ness as well

2003-01-30 12:18:04 ET

You guys need an action packed lifestyle like yours truly.

2003-01-30 12:20:07 ET

i'm so envious

2003-01-30 12:27:20 ET

bio: i wish i had half the life you do

sin: i envy your monoploy skillz

2003-01-30 13:23:14 ET

I'm not the one with the skill. That's Sykospark!

2003-01-30 13:49:40 ET

yes!

2003-01-30 16:38:34 ET

>>with modern peer relations the way they are [internet, etc] we dont take time any more to work on friendships.

Az, it's not the time we're lacking, it's the effort/intensity. We clock a lot of hours on these "friendships," but what are we doing with that time? Drooling and making bad puns. . . it's humorous, but in the end, it's the serious time we spend with someone, getting to know them, that makes them a friend in the truest sense.

2003-01-30 18:50:08 ET

'we learn from others mistakes how to accomplish things better.' -Filthy Murder Shack AgN.

: )

2003-01-30 19:00:24 ET

I think actually spending time with a small of group of people and having heart-to-heart talks brings people together the best.

My homies and I always get together at Norms late at night just to sit around and shoot the breeze. It's kind of the equivalent to a family dinner table. We talk about serious issues concerning or lives, or just about nothing inparticular at all. My bond with them is the strongest.

It's hard to find friends that you can just sit around and talk with. A lot of relationships have a pretense to them. For instance friends that one just goes clubbing or out to concerts with. Friends that one just shares certain activities with. Then that remains the extent of the relationship. Those type of friendships can only go so far and leave one unfulfilled.

2003-01-31 07:00:25 ET

insomnia:but for people who have difficulty making friends or have relocated(like myself), it's not just effort they're lacking, it's the "in." for me the internet presents a way to make friends locally by becoming depersonalized and there more easy to talk to and it's a good way to keep my friends back on the east coast without running up long-dist. charges. (plus i get to talk to the NYC rivets so when i go back to the east coast i know good places to go)

2003-01-31 07:56:38 ET

insomnia: time and effort

downrail: if only people learned from their mistakes...

sin: in agree, friendships should be more versatile all around

automata: the internet is an amzing tool for staying in touch. but it has almost never helped me find local friends. that happens by just going out and hanging about.

2003-01-31 10:26:09 ET

i've found a couple, but it hasn't turned out to the way i wanted it to

2003-01-31 10:49:37 ET

few things do...

2003-01-31 13:53:29 ET

Not saying the internet isn't a good tool, just stating that the real shit is the quality of the time spent together -

2003-01-31 17:48:21 ET

>its the 'if you are not going where i am headed, then you are
>getting left behind' effect.

Ouch! Hit the nail right on the head. That's been my view lately, basically. Which is kind of sad.

2003-02-01 16:49:39 ET

Well..
you can lookit it this way..
if everyone else ends up boring..you can always entertain yourself..shit..it works like a goddamn charm for me!

I also think it depends on the person and their comfort level, i've found some seemingly boring people end up being loads of fun..and vice versa..

::Babble Deactivated::

2003-02-03 10:06:51 ET

damn, now i actually need to leave the house

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